Skip to main content

Possibly the last current flagship set I ever complete


I am a set collector at heart, by trade, to the core, however you want to phrase it. It is the style of collecting that makes the most sense to me. It is the kind of collecting that dominated the hobby through the '50s, '60s, '70s and into the '80s. It is how I grew up.

No other kind of collecting makes me feel more complete, more at one with the hobby, more invested, dedicated or exhilarated than set collecting. If I was told I had to limit my collection to one type of collecting, I wouldn't hesitate for a minute. Set completion would be the way to go.

The most logical set for me to complete is the Topps flagship set. It was basically the only thing you could complete from the time I was 9 years old until I was 15. And because I received that foundation, completing the main Topps set by going to the store and buying packs is the very definition of collecting for me. That IS card collecting to me. By all means, you can collect how and why you want, and you certainly don't need my permission. But everything else, every other kind of collecting, to me, is a spin-off, off-shoot or sequel -- there is only one original.

From where I come from, completing the Topps flagship set, specifically when you do it all in the year in which it was released, is the ultimate.

And it's quite possible I have just said goodbye to that kind of collecting.

Yeah, this is me being dramatic, again, but honestly, this how I see things at this point right now.

The card at the top of this post is from the 2015 Topps Update set. It is the last card I needed to complete that set and to own a complete Series 1, Series 2 and Update set from that flagship set (super shortprints excluded, of course). It is the last card I'm showing from my recent COMC order, and it could be the last card in a much bigger way. It's quite likely that I will point to it 10 years from now and say "that is the last card from the last current flagship set that I ever completed." Craig Kimbrel will be my sad hobby trivia answer.

I like 2015 Topps. I've said that few times. It is my favorite Topps flagship set since the 1980s. It would have to be for me to attempt to complete it. It's colorful, distinctive, memorable and quirky. The sonar set joins a host of other Topps flagship sets that I have completed: 1971, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2006, 2009 and 2010.

It also gave me hope that I would want to complete modern sets, because after 2010, I wasn't all that inspired by what I saw from flagship. 2013 was nice, but 2015 restored my faith.

Then 2016 Topps arrived and dashed that faith along a smoke-filled rocky shore. Full bleed cards with name plates that half float in the air, extended from half-obscured team logos, and the whole thing covered in fog is not my idea of flagship. I get that card companies have to be different and innovative, if only to quiet the people who keep screaming at them YOU HAVE TO BE INNOVATIVE, but to me that's not the way to go about it.

But to Topps, obviously, somebody thinks, that IS the way to go. Because we've all seen what 2017 Topps is going to look like.

I will say that 2017 Topps looks better than 2016. And that is the very definition of damning with faint praise because I don't like it much. The 3-D straight edge ensemble at the bottom of each card with the name plate headed off into the horizon is ... different. The haze in the bottom right of each card is obviously for parallels and it's weird. But there's some strangeness that seems like it still needs work, as pointed out here:


But beyond that, it's nothing I want to collect. It's Stadium Club visiting flagship, and leaving a mess all over the place. I will always like some sort of border on flagship. Why is Stadium Club if you're going to use flagship to focus solely on photos?

It's another app friendly design that doesn't line up with how I collect. It's digital first, and if you know anything about newspapers and "digital first" you know what a wild, west show that is. There is nothing guaranteed about what Topps is doing.

But this is now year two of that digital-first trend. Which makes me wonder how long this is going to go on ... and whether there is an end in sight.

I get that people don't want to go back to what's been done before (although I saw today that Topps is trotting out 1987 Topps-themed inserts AGAIN). And I get that kids don't like crusty old cardboard. But there has to be a way to incorporate old-school designing in a new way, the traditional flagship look in a new way (P.S.: Design On Deck has some good examples on his blog).

I'm not seeing that in 2016 Topps and now 2017. And I'm certainly not collecting it. (It's entirely possible that two years from now I fall in love with a Topps flagship design, but the pattern here doesn't show that).

That's good news for my 1972 Topps set. And whatever other old sets I choose to complete now that there's nothing modern worth my while.

Congrats, 2015. You just may have been my fond farewell.

Comments

Tony L. said…
It is a digital card world now, apparently. That's what Topps really designs its flagship for.

If it weren't for the damn stupid short prints, I'd consider trying to collect Heritage or Archives or something like that.
Commishbob said…
I'd LIKE to think that these things are cyclical and Topps will come back around to bordered, more traditional designs but I am doubtful. I don't dislike the '16 design as much as you and I hate the '17 design with a passion but I'm really not the target market. What I think doesn't matter.

You and all the other set collectors are and if enough current card set collectors agree with you then Topps has a problem.

BTW...I think the 2017 set looks like something done by the ESPN graphics guy while stoned.
Zippy Zappy said…
"And I get that kids don't like crusty old cardboard."

I seriously wonder how many people who buy flagship are actually kids sometimes. Or who really buys flagship at all anymore.

The design for next year's cards reminds me of 2013 without the border or simplistic charm.
Cardboard Jones said…
As a kid, did you even give a rip about the design? Or, would you not collect a Topps set because you didn't like the design?
night owl said…
Probably not, although there were designs that I remember not liking as much as others (I was disappointed in 1979 and 1982 and I thought the first Fleer and Donruss designs were inferior). But who knows what I would have done if the 1980 design looked like 2016 Topps.
Mike Matson said…
Topps loves redundant sets.. They put out Archives and Heritage. Allen and Ginter and Gypsy Queen.. I'm sure there's some of the higher-end stuff I'm missing that runs into each other.

It's starting to remind me of Ford Prefect's theory on why humans stated the blatantly obvious. Originally he thought if humans didn't exercise their lips, their mouths would seize.. He changed it to, if they stop exercising their lips, their brains start working.

In this case, rather than coming out with things collectors truly want, they're just churning out product after product in order to not have to put actual thought into what they're releasing..
The closest I ever came to completing a set in the year it was issued (buying pack-by-pack) was in 1972. I got every card that year except the high-numbered Bill Russell.

I bought the 1981 Topps and Fleer factory sets in 1981, but as you say, that's more like "amassing" than "collecting".
Brett Alan said…
Yeah, I have no memory as a kid of thinking at all about whether I liked or didn't like a certain card, pretty much until I started getting Baseball Hobby News and they wrote about the aesthetics of it. Before that it was just did I have the card, who was on it, and at some point, how old was it.

Of course in those days we didn't have many choices.
I hear you, but you'll be back.
Jeremya1um said…
I think I liked a few sets more than others when I was a kid ('90's), but most of the designs were decent and not this crap that Topps gets away with making now. Those Design on Deck cards look a whole lot better than the stuff Topps has put out since 2010 or so.

Popular posts from this blog

G.O.A.T, the '80s: 30-21

  I often call this current period of the television sports calendar the black hole of sports programming. The time between the end of the Super Bowl and the beginning of televised Spring Training baseball games is an empty void when I'm looking for something to watch on traditional television. I don't watch the NBA and the NHL on TV holds my interest for maybe a period. College basketball I can't watch until the tournament. This didn't used to be as much of a problem back when I could turn instead to my favorite sitcoms in February. Do you remember when February was "sweeps month"? (Maybe it still is, I don't know). Networks would make sure that every top show aired original episodes that month, no reruns. So you'd always have something to view during the week even when the sports scene was boring. (I know, people have multiple streaming viewing options now. But I find myself going weeks sometimes before I see something I want to view on Netflix or Am

The return of COMC and a ridiculous collecting quest

  For the first time in exactly a year, I received a shipment of cards from COMC last week. I wouldn't say COMC is truly back back. I did pay extra for the express shipping so I wouldn't have to wait however long we're waiting for COMC shipments these days. But the cards arrived in short fashion and it was nice to see something in the mailbox from my preferred online card site for over a decade until last year. I had waited a year to order what was in my cart. I didn't want to be one of those people who paid and then waited nine months for shipment. I mean, what if I ordered them and COMC went under? Those were the kind of questions that were floating in my head last year.   That meant that I did lose a couple of items out of my cart, but no big deal. Nothing in there was anything highly sought-after and I merely replaced whatever I lost with a new version or something else I liked. Many of my collecting interests are not high on anyone's radar, especially 2020 fli

Say hey, you guys

  One of the most significant cards in my collecting history arrived at my door today. The 1956 Topps Willie Mays card ties my formative collecting days to my current collecting existence, confirms what I believe in in this hobby, and realizes dreams from long ago I never thought possible. It also sets a couple of personal records. It is the most I've ever spent on a single card. Yet it didn't hurt my wallet nor cause any regret. In terms of a cardboard acquisition it is about as perfect as it gets. No guilt. All power and beauty. It removes a considerable road block in my quest to complete the 1956 Topps set. It was one of the Big Three that I fretted over for years. "How would I ever obtain that card?" And now it's here. I don't have to remind you that baseball legends from the 1950s (and '60s and '70s) are departing at a rapid pace. That wasn't a top consideration in landing this card. But with Willie's age (he will be 90 in May) and the way