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Where do I draw the line?


I've written many times that I discard most of my rules for condition for a card from the 1950s or earlier. If I have a shot at getting a card from at least 70 years ago, I will not care if the corners are rounded, that there are a few creases, that it shows wear as a card like that should. (But I'll usually veer away from old cards that are stained or drawn on).
 
But those relaxed rules don't apply to most of the cards in my collection. Anything from the 1970s forward better be in tip-top shape. If it isn't, I'm probably going to upgrade it at some point.
 
But what about those cards between, say the mid-1950s and 1970? Where am I drawing the line?
 
I never thought about that until I acquired card #1 in the 1963 Topps set. It showed up yesterday.
 
This card has long been a Dodger need for the 1963 Topps set. It's fallen under the radar -- for years -- because 1) There are five rookie cards from this set with Dodgers on them that I still need and a couple are impossibilities so why bother even thinking about 1963 anymore? 2) Look at the guys with Tommy Davis on this card! How am I ever going to get that?
 
But I saw this obviously worn card on ebay a little while ago and I thought, why not? For 10 bucks, I'll give it a shot and threw it in my cart. Then, surprisingly, the cost was knocked down to 5 and I grabbed that thing. FIVE BUCKS. FOR DAVIS AND FRANK ROBINSON AND STAN MUSUAL AND HANK AARON ... oh, sorry, Bill ... AND BILL WHITE. Let's go!
 
And that right there, I discovered, is my threshold, where I draw the line on condition. I had no regrets when it showed up in my mailbox with worn corners, slight paper loss and some handling. The card is perfect.
 
So if '63 is OK in that condition, is '64 OK? Is '65 OK? I thought about it a little bit. ... I'm trying to complete the 1969 Topps set, and I've been looking for cards that are at least in VG-EX shape. I've been successful and I like how they look. If they're less than that, I definitely look to upgrade.
 
I'm also trying -- feebly -- to complete the 1967 Topps set. My condition standards are less stringent, because the prices are more, and also I know if I have any hope to get some of those high number cards, I'm going to have to settle for cards that look like they were eaten by rats.
 
1968 I have no intent of completing, but I do like if the cards look fairly sharp. Same goes for 1965 and 1966. So I think the line is right around 1964 for me on when condition means less to me. But that line gets closer to the present if I'm trying to complete the set -- a set that's not impossible, like 1967.
 
 

There's the back, so you can see all those classic names and that big drop before we get to Ron Santo. Ouch.
 
Super-happy to finally get this card recognizing Tommy Davis' fantastic 1962 season. It's really the last piece of the 1963 Topps Dodgers that I feel is essential. All those other floating heads to get are rookies, a few who I barely even know -- Jack Smith, Bill Haas, Ken Rowe with no logo? OK, those sure aren't worth the price.
 
But let me know if there's a beat-up copy for 5 bucks. I might get that. 

Comments

63' Topps is one of the sets that I need the most cards from the 60's.
Nice going! What a great pick up for $5! Wow. 1968 is the weakest of the 1960s set designs. I try to keep as few of these as is possible in my collection. (I have three.)
Jeremya1um said…
I loathe Bill White for helping keep the Giants from moving to Tampa Bay in 1993.
Glad you got the card, and hope you can at least get the rest of the Dodgers to finish that team set.
John Bateman said…
In 1962 - 23 National Leaguers hit .290 or more in 2024 it was 6.
Old Cards said…
This is a great card. 60's cards are my absolute favorite due to childhood memories. Trying to fill in my 60's sets is proving to be expensive. Why are you 70's and 80's guys collecting my 60's sets? You are driving up the prices!!! Also, I have never had a card on ebay drop 50% in price. How did you do that?
Personally don’t worry about condition much for Cubs right now. I think cards from the 60s and before should definitely show some wear! I have little chance finding Ernie Banks and Billy Williams cards so happy to take beaten up ones of those guys!
Mike Matson said…
I'm not really picky when it comes to condition. I mean I'd rather a nice copy than something that was crumpled up like a used napkin. My 1910s Russ Ford I'm happy I was able to get it and it looked like it had a hole punched out of it.
Zippy Zappy said…
Arbitrary lines for collecting can be redrawn at any time if you can luck into cards for cheap. I've found this to be the case more often than not. At least with me.
Fuji said…
A. Five bucks is a great deal for 3 hall of famers, a pc guy, and Bill White.

B. Kenny took the words right off of my keyboard.
carlsonjok said…
That is a super deal and if I ever get around to attempting 1963, that condition card would be just fine. I think there are a couple of break points in the Topps run where costs jump and my condition requirements drop. From 1973 to 1972 is one of them. And from 1969 to 1968 is another.
Nick Vossbrink said…
Love this post. I've found for me that it's not just a year but also a function of player. My Mays cards for example are WAY more beat up than the commons from that same year.

In general though I think my cutoff is actually 1978/79 where I'm good with some wear and tear on the 78s and earlier but with 79 and newer I like them to be pretty crisp. Why 1979? Probably simply a function of what I used to find "new" in repacks when I was a kid and what was "old."

There's also another cutoff though where if the card is too clean I think it looks wrong. Not sure where exactly this but my gut tells me it's somewhere around 1963. I'm not sure why but I suspect it might have to do with the card stock switching to white that year.
Bo said…
Nice to see you are starting to come around on the idea that condition is overrated!
night owl said…
Wouldn't go that far.
CardBoredom said…
Condition minimums is definitely one of those things that fluctuate set by set. Sometimes I don't really know where the line is for a particular issue until after I've crossed it.
Brett Alan said…
I'm a bit of an outlier...poor condition cards really don't bother me if the price is right.
Matt said…
Great pickup for $5, regardless of condition!