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Fork in the buyback road

  
Here is the other 1975 Topps-focused post I wanted to get to before the 50th anniversary year is over.
 
I've reached sort of a milestone in the 1975 Topps buyback chase. It's been exactly 10 years since I first decided to collect these and see how far I could get. I admit I've gotten farther than I thought I would, particularly when I was first starting the mission. But my approach has always been to keep pressing on. As long as I kept finding new ones -- and I can still afford them -- I'd continue.
 
I just went over 82 percent of the set in buyback form with the addition of three cards. One is the Bob Forsch here.
 
 
 

These are the other two. I now have 542 of the 660 cards in the set in buyback form.
 
These three cards would be considered "commons" by most collectors, but they mean much more than that. All three have puzzled me for years. I couldn't figure out why they were so elusive. None are particularly notable. I'd reason that I couldn't find Forsch because it's his rookie card, but except for a couple of years he wasn't a star. I also reasoned that Dave Giusti was so elusive because he was a member of the 1971 World Series champion Pirates team. All of those guys are popular.
 
But Dan Spillner? No one could possibly value that card like I did when I pulled it out of a pack on a hot summer day while on vacation out of town. Why was it on my want list so long?
 
These 3 cards felt like such an achievement that I thought I'd write a post about the most inexplicably elusive buybacks in the chase.
 
Then I realized that I now had almost all of those kinds of cards. Just about everything left is very explicable. I know why I don't have them. There is just one common character that I don't own that is somewhat confusing, though I know the answer.
 
 

Card #14. I haven't been able to find it anywhere during the 10 years. However, now it's understandable because Topps didn't make any Indians cards available when it created buybacks for the 2024 Heritage set. Milt Wilcox sits among Oscar Gamble and Frank Robinson as '75 buybacks I may never get.
 
But there's still a shot, because I have plenty of Indians buybacks:
 

There are all from 2014 and 2015 -- i.e. before they became the Guardians. Why Wilcox wasn't in that initial bunch, I have no idea. Or maybe I just missed him.
 
But now that I have obtained all of the "low-hanging fruit," I am at the fork in the buyback road. To illustrate, here is my remaining want list:
 

Every one of these is either a Hall of Famer, an All-Star card, a rookie prospects card, rookie cup dudes, team checklists and set checklists, and a few "cult figures" like Dwight Evans, Boog Powell and Fritz Peterson. (A few years ago, I bolded the ones I had seen somewhere online but there are several others I've spotted since).
 
I still have hopes of finding guys like Buddy Bell, Davey Lopes and Claudell Washington but otherwise I've reached decision time.
 
Do I increase the amount I pay for these? A lot of the ones left are available. I've seen them. Usually for too much money. I have upped the average amount I pay over the years. Once I refused to pay no more than 2 bucks -- they were marred by a stamp! As the Heritage buybacks popped up on sale sites,  I realized I'd have to throw as much as 10 bucks at many of them.
 
Now, if I want what's left, I'm going to have to pay $15, $20, $30, $50 or more. Yeah, that's ridiculous. But this is also a ridiculous quest. So it makes sense in a way.
 
My guess is that I'll still try to add them, it just won't be as often and they will arrive in my collection at a much slower rate, one at a time. All the while I know I'll never get buyback cards like Pete Rose and Robin Yount, but that won't stand in my way.
 
It's been too fun the last 10 years chasing them down. 

Comments

Old Cards said…
I've never fully understood the 'buy back' concept, but I wish you luck in your pursuit!
Reminds me of my T206 quest....LOL
Zippy Zappy said…
I assume that autographed buybacks aren't factored into this? Because I feel like for several of the big names still left they'd more likely end up as stuff for products like Topps Archive Signature Series.
Brett Alan said…
I'm, like, the most politically correct guy around, and I would fully support putting Indians cards in as buybacks. Especially one like the Wilcox which doesn't even have Wahoo on it, which is really what made the old Cleveland branding offensive.

Anyway, though, it's really quite an accomplishment to get this far. Well done.
night owl said…
@ZZ ~

I do count the Archives Signatures buybacks in my chase. I have one, Bill Buckner. (Still want a regular Buckner stamp). I'll add other Signature buybacks if that's what it takes, though they tend to be even more expensive.
carlsonjok said…
I am glad you are sticking with this. It has to be my favorite project across the blogosphere.
Ken said…
I have the Mike Tyson if you need it.
Bo said…
I wonder if it would cost less to just make your own stamp and buy back those cards yourself.
defgav said…
Very impressive how far you've gotten. I remember years ago putting in a bid on an autographed Gary Carter rookie buyback with the hopes of putting it towards your project, but didn't win it.

Poking around trying to see if I could find it on TCDB now, looks like there are 31 cards listed from '75 Topps in 2004 Topps Originals Signature Edition, with some doozies like Yount and Brett, if 1/1 but technically in existence in official Topps buyback form, at least.
kcjays said…
Keep going! Keep pressing forward.
Rising costs, as you have seen, are to be expected. (Unfortunately)
My suggestion: Set a goal, like… getting 550 total cards. Once you reach that, re-evaluate your desire to continue.
night owl said…
@Ken ~

I have that, but thanks.

@Bo ~
It would cost less. ... And be a lot less interesting.
Crh614 said…
I figure all collectors have at least one pursuit that they dont actually believe they will complete. This is a fun one for sure!
Billy Kingsley said…
A set build is still a set build even if it's a set made up of different sets. Sine are going to cost more for sure. Good luck finding (justifying the cost) the rest!
gregory said…
If the folks at Topps knew of your quest, I wonder if they'd help you out in some way.
Fuji said…
I've been targeting the Herb Washington buyback for over a year now. I'll email you when one surfaces, so we don't get into a bidding war. I'm sure there will already be plenty of others out there competing for it.
Jamie Meyers said…
There are parallels between what you're doing and my quest to get as many of these cards autographed as possible. It has slowed down a lot as I've long since gotten all the easier ones. I have the same issue as you do in terms of increasing the tolerance of how much I'm willing to pay for some of the cards, and it's definitely gotten more expensive in the past few years. Reggie Jackson (and other like Hall of Famers) has doubled his rates and I'm not inclined to spend that kind of money to get him to scribble on the four different cards he has in the set. I'm at just over 80% currently, keep looking out there but not really feeling like I'm going to get that much further. But it has been fun chasing these.
NO, I actually pulled #350 Murcer last year from a Heritage box. I'll send it your way through TCDb - will send a message later today to get your address (GoldenEagles555 over there).
Grant said…
May as well keep going, buddy, you've come this far. As you wrap up some of the other sets you're nearing, you're going to want to focus on a different pursuit. Makes sense to toss a few extra bucks towards some of these. I would bet if other collectors knew how few you still need they would be more willing to let theirs go.
Jeremya1um said…
Maybe you could try to be a little bit of a flipper and try to acquire cards with the potential to increase in value, sell them, and use the profit to get those high priced buyback needs. The blogging community will have your back if we find some in shops and shows.
GCA said…
Oooh! Set builder/Blogger Bat Around ~ Which (obscure/parallel) set will probably be a lifelong quest? Mine is 2012 Gypsy Queen black minis.
BaseSetCalling said…
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BaseSetCalling said…
typos, sorry

I think if you just stick to your acceptable price point, you will be pleasantly surprised in the future. Many cards we chase become “locked up in collections” and are thus no longer on the market - but collections get sold, and also collecting efforts get stopped. And simultaneously, high priced cards that don’t sell inevitably get offered for less, too.

So I think your progress will slow, but never stop completely as surprises pop up.

I’m glad you already found the Lowenstein card though, cuz I do enjoy owning my copy.
Jafronius said…
Keep at it! Rising costs are to be expected