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Card show etiquette

 
I don't expect this post to be anything more than venting. The collectors who need to see this aren't reading blogs. But sometimes I encounter something and I've got to write about it and that's why I'm laying down a few guidelines for the ridiculous idea of "card show etiquette."
 
I went to the monthly card show Saturday and was slightly surprised by how many people were attending. It's the summer time and usually dealers (if not the whole show) take the season off because it's not a very profitable time. But it was busy.
 
The show is in a medium-sized conference room in a small business complex. If you set up seven rows of tables inside that room, with another row of tables along the back wall and a couple tables along the front wall, there's not a lot of room to roam. That's the show promoter's fault more than the attendees, sure, but maybe take that into account before acting like you're the only one shopping.
 
I went to the main vintage table at the show -- always my first stop -- but it was dominated by people, an unusual site. A couple of older men -- think old hippie dudes who just stepped off their Harleys -- had commandeered the portion of the table with the glass display case. They had laid out their hand-written want lists, multiple pages, onto the table while they dug through cards.
 
"Fine" I thought. "I'll come back to this." And I found the table with the $2 discount box that I raved about the last time.
 
This time, it was a little picked over. But I found enough stuff for at least other collectors. There were just two Dodgers that I bought.
 

Not very exciting, I know. But Dodgers I needed.
 
I waited for the dealer to notice me. But he was commiserating with one of those kids that likes to talk up dealers about their favorite football teams. The kid wasn't buying anything, just chatting. The dealer spotted me and elbowed his helper -- his son, maybe? -- to take my order. The helper totaled up the cards and gave me a price. No discount. The main dealer had given me half off the last time.
 
I wandered past a few other tables, stopping briefly at the non-pokemon/non-slabbed ones. Then I went back to the vintage guy. The Harley dudes were still there. They were joined by a guy looking for '60s Mantles -- and his friend, a great big dude who was not looking at cards, just palling around and taking up a whole bunch of real estate in front of the cards.
 
I don't know if they're growing people bigger or if it's just where I live (there is an Army base nearby). But the size of dudes is almost alarming at this show. But I decided to stay this time and bang bodies.
 
Card show etiquette guideline 1:
 
If you're not shopping, GET OUT OF THE WAY. I'm not a big guy. I'm short and I also watch my weight, which is very much the opposite of a lot of collectors I encounter at shows. But I still am aware of how much space I take up, and if someone is interested in one of the rows of cards I'm looking at, I'll shift over so they can look at a row.
 
Because of all of the bodies, and all of the talking, at the table, I either could not get access or could not focus on what I needed. The cards seemed picked over, which I couldn't figure out if it was because of inventory or if the Harley dudes had pulled them all out and were looking at them over on the other side of the table.
 
Card show etiquette guideline 2:
 
You do not own the whole table. Be mindful of other shoppers. Make sure they can find stuff the way you did. Maybe put your want lists on your phone -- if you have one -- so you don't take up so much space!
 
So these are the relatively few cards I got at the table (the 1960 Topps Johnny Antonelli was one of them):
 

A couple of 1965 Topps Angels. I wanted to gather a few more 1965s but there didn't seem to be much this time.
 
 

A trio of 1968s. Since I've officially lifted my disinterest in 1968 Topps, there was more for me to choose. I still doubt I'm going to collect this set -- I find so many of the pictures unappealing -- but there's enough in there to grab cards here and there.
 
 

 One of the 1970 Topps scratch-off books that I needed. Having your want lists on TCDB is a wonderful thing when you're at a card show (listen up, Harley dudes!). But even though I checked them while I was at that table, for some reason I didn't do it for this card -- probably because I was so discombobulated. Fortunately this was an item I needed.
 
 

An unusual sight at this table -- O-Pee-Chee! Normally I ignore the 1980s row because I have just about everything from that decade. But with access being restricted I took a look and was rewarded! 
 
Then, finally I added this card:
 

Thiswas on the dealer's shelf display, clearly visible now that the big dude had left. This is an upgrade of my 1967 Ernie Banks, which looks like the top portion had met some sort of solvent. This is so much nicer.
 
I left the table fairly certain I was done for the day but took a brief tour around the rows, eluding the usual obstacles of shows these days.
 
Card show etiquette guideline 3:
 
Know how to walk. I can't believe I have to write this, but keep to the right of an aisle -- it's what separates us from the animals. Too many times I'm dodging giant dudes who are rumbling down the middle of the aisle.
 
Also if you must bring one of those grading suitcase things, make sure it's not swinging at someone's legs. They leave bruises!
 
I'm sure there are other things I could recommend -- for example, to the woman who let the baby cry in my ear while I was looking for cards -- but much of this, I have a sinking feeling, is part of being out in public in 2026. A lot of people just aren't up on the common decency guidelines.
 
There is also the well-chronicled plight of the collector who is not capable of keeping himself showered, etc., which I now just chalk up to being part of the "charm" of a card show.
 
I need to add that when I go to larger shows, for example the one at the state fairgrounds, I don't run into these issues nearly as often. So, much of this is related to the size of the venue and also the experience of some of the dealers. 
 
In all, none of this deters me from going to shows. The goods for sale are still better than anything I can find at any store. It's just that I could be more productive as a card show collector if some people were more productive at being decent human beings.

Comments

CardBoredom said…
I kinda want to go to a card show just to cosplay as a "hobby bro." Would be fun to do just as performance art.
People suck and are awful; which makes online shopping so nice but there is the trade off with the job of in person shopping; serendipity finds, and other random stuff. The body odor thing is just weird. Ultimately, though, people suck.
I think I may have been guilty of this before I realized what I was doing: If you're wearing a backpack, be mindful that you take up more space that way. You might be blocking the aisle without realizing it. I've also seen backpacks inadvertently bump into people & dealer tables
Matt said…
i haven't been to enough recent card shows to see any problems other than the overpricing. Nobody is going to pay 20 for a 3 card. eBay is the way to go in that case. And yes, the last one I went to, everyone was in the way. I slid over when I was done a row at the card show. They just kept on being in my way.
carlsonjok said…
I am fortunate that there doesn't seem to be a huge vintage collecting community around here, so the main tables I go to are usually just the same half dozen guys. I really should get to know them better, but that whole being an introvert gets in the way. Now when I've gone to the big Dallas show, and the one time I went to the National, it was just as you described it. It has been 4 years since I last went to Dallas and 8 years since I went to the National. I haven't had the desire to go back to either.
Old Cards said…
Nice 60s cards. Hope they were worth the hassle. My gripe is everybody and their brother collecting 60s cards and driving up the prices! Thanks Covid!!!
kcjays said…
The vast majority of people at the St. Louis shows are polite and respectful.
I have, unfortunately, been caught next to the occasional “body oder” guy. (It’s not pleasant and you have to wonder how they were raised.) A gripe I’d add is the 13-15 year olds with the hard sided briefcase that are constantly trying to buy/sell/flip cards. Phone in one hand, briefcase in the other quoting recent sells on eBay or other sites.
Couldn't agree with you more, I say just shoot them all (now you folks know my humor...after this long you should be used it). With that said, a few other additions: 1) when fortunate enough to find a dealer with boxes on the tables to dig through and chairs to sit in....stay out of the box I'm digging in, and most certainly and most importantly don't stand behind me and reach over my head to get in the box I'm looking at. 2) if you're going to be coughing and sneezing.....please step away. 3) this one is for the show HOSTS/organizers: There is absolutely sufficient customers there just for the Pokemon......have a separate show it may not have as many tables but your Pokemon customers should be the same. This should make pretty much everyone happier. Quit trying to get the biggest place and cram as many sellers of whatever wares they have. The last show I went to had as many food vendors as the gaming, and sports cards vendors. NUTS. Ahhh, I vented too. :)
Laurens said…
I like to dig for cards at a show and when it comes time to check out, I find it annoying when a seller is distracted to a point - I am wondering if I should move on or should be a little more aggressive to hand over my money in exchange whatever I rummaged for.
Fuji said…
Love a good card show etiquette post. With the exception of those grading suitcase things banging into legs, I deal with all of these situations at flea markets as well. That's honestly my happy place, so I've learned to just walk away from crowded tables and come back later. And if it's still crowded... it wasn't meant to be.
Zippy Zappy said…
I remember how at a card show someone was digging through the dime boxes and licked his hands before picking up a big stack and thumbing his way through it.
Bulldog said…
Good post and it can be difficult at busy card shows.
Damien said…
Yeah, unfortunately being out in public is getting harder because our society has been increasingly more irrational in our behavior, which is reflected most clearly in the lack of etiquette (among other things).

I'm glad you found some good things at this show, though.
POISON75 said…
That's usually what I deal with every time I attend shows these days every month & if a person is got a stack please put them closer to you & if possible mentioned that you have a pile here point it out so I don't go through it & hear you angrily say those are yours hands off very rudely also don't go in the same row as me if I'm going through the boxes cause it messes up my mind wait please or ask if you can go through the portions I've been through so I can not lose my spot where I'm looking at also don't be rude to others that ask questions to you like what types are cards you looking for or offer to help you with finding something that you want sure i know ya want to hunt them but if it helps you faster accept it or if I tell you that I saw some in a certain area of the box or not politely say thanks be considerate of others that are trying to look at something don't keep moving them as close to the table if you see someone sitting down going through a box & ya cant get through don't push them closer in they are in if cant get through then try saying excuse me may I get through its tight or go through the opposite direction please I don't like squeezing any closer then should. Return help if I find some things see if you can help me if I can't reach something be able to help your angle might be easier access than mine plus if your a dealer & your the only person Manning the table Iook to see who's ready to move on by paying for the stuff don't ignore me then also keep the cards in the order ya got them handed to you maybe I have them in numbered order so its easier for me to cross them off my lists or if someone else wants to go through that particular pile they don't want to 1 minute find 1 through 100 then next is 300 through 468 then the next batch is 101 through 299 if ya have them by teams or player keep the same cards together I don't want to find 3 1987 topps Jim Rice cards then an 1988 score then back to the 1987 Topps ones again or in team wise 10 1988 Billy Ripken topps cards then 3 1988 Fleer Mike Schus in then 1988 Cal Ripken Jr Topps after that keep the Ripken brothers together then the Schu cards i hate going through team boxes that don't keep the same years together & tell your customers please keep them organized for others so I don't have to go back n forth scrolling on my phone for my lists JTS I blame you now I'm adding the rants lol
Elliptical Man said…
Sucks that you had to pay what the rest of us pay.
Blocking the table is a no-no.
Schmidt wins it, followed closely by Banks. The 1968 trio is good too.
Jafronius said…
You did pick up some good stuff so it wasn't a total loss