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My first baseball teachers

 
 
I don't have a lot of mini collections. I can't focus on that many hobby things these days anyway, but I've never been the mini-collection type.

If I did venture outside of my set/team/player-sphere, one of the collections I would set up is cards of players who later became broadcasters when I was starting to learn baseball.

They were my first baseball teachers. Yeah, sure there were youth league coaches and my dad and all that, but I wanted to know about Major Leaguers, not that "keep your eye on the ball" stuff. Fortunately there were guys on TV who told me all about major leaguers.

Sure, there were people like Vin Scully and Keith Jackson and Lindsey Nelson and Frank Messer. But the ones who knew all the inside stuff were usually called "the color commentators" and they were usually former ballplayers.

Ex-ballplayers like Joe Garagiola, Tony Kubek, Ralph Kiner and Don Drysdale were invaluable to me learning about professional ballplayers and what went on in the field or the dugout. They experienced it. They were there. Sorry, Bryant Gumbel, you're very good, but I don't remember you wearing a baby blue uniform on the field when I was watching Game Of The Week as a kid.

It's a hoot to wind up with cards of players who you only knew as announcers. Let's go through some of those guys who would be in my mini-collection of Former Players Who Were MLB Broadcasters When I Was a Kid:


TONY KUBEK (1 card in my collection)

I seriously need to do something about finding more Kubek cards. Kubek was part of the first national broadcasting team that I knew. He was the color man and Garagiola was the play-by-play guy. It was a great combo. Garagiola laid-back and super-goofy and Kubek hyped-up and deadly serious. Even watching old clips from that time and hearing Kubek pop up on the broadcast, it's like, "geez, Tony dial it back a little."
 
 

BOB UECKER (1 card in my collection)

Ueck does not have a lot of cards. He was a broadcaster on ABC's Monday Night Baseball when I was a youngster. I believe him and Howard Cosell did some games together and that's quite a combination. Ueck's shtick went over my head at the time.

Actually I saw Ueck more often on Lite Beer commercials and then on the Tonight Show (and Mr. Belvedere) than I did broadcasting games.



JOE GARAGIOLA (3 cards in my collection)

The titan of baseball broadcasters when I was a kid. NBC's Game Of The Week was the most visible baseball broadcast at the time and Garagiola was the face. He played it for all it was worth and unlike a lot of hams on TV, it never got old. He's still the model for the kind of personality I'd like in a baseball broadcaster.
 


BILL WHITE (3 cards in my collection)

This is the most recent acquisition among the ballplayer/broadcasters of my youth and the card that spurred this post. Bill White was the guy in the booth who served as Phil Rizzuto's sounding board. The banter between those guys amused me through many a Sunday Yankees broadcast when the score of the game (i.e. the Yankees winning) could have ruined my mood. I always got the feeling that White (the only name Rizzuto called him) thought Rizzuto was nuts.
 


PHIL RIZZUTO (6 cards in my collection)

Phil Rizzuto was the broadcaster who clued me into the fact that you could say whatever you wanted as a baseball broadcaster. You could talk about cannolis. You could actively root for the team you were announcing. You could leave the game three innings early. You could call a home run that wasn't. Phil did all of those things. All the time.

You would need to have known my grandmother to get this, but Phil Rizzuto was my grandmother if my grandmother knew baseball and was a former Yankees shortstop. 
 


FRAN HEALY (10 cards in my collection)

Fran Healy is totally associated with the Yankees, thanks to his broadcasting for them, even though he played for them only at the tail end of his career.

Before he joined the Yankees broadcast (I'm hazy on when, sometime in the early '80s, I remember him being on the radio a lot), I associated him with the Royals, particularly this card here, the first one of him I ever saw. It also reminds me of my friend Jeff, who was a Royals fan and many of the Royals cards I saw at the time came from his collection.
 


RALPH KINER (11 cards)

Kiner's Corner was genius when I was a kid. "You mean the baseball talk isn't over just because the game is over? We get to watch 15 minutes more????"

Ralph Kiner was part of a venerable trio that included Lindsey Nelson and Bob Murphy. They all looked old as the hills to me as a kid, but I'd probably be disturbed by how young they actually were if I looked it up (and then I'd add up their ages from that time and it wouldn't even add up to my age right now and I'd have to end this post to cry in the backyard).

Kiner's Kinerisms are now legendary but I had no idea he was flubbing stuff when I was watching. I just thought he liked to talk about the Mets. And baseball. And wear loud jackets.


 
TIM MCCARVER (23 cards)

Tim McCarver's broadcasting career was so long that I remember watching him broadcast when I was a kid and I remember him broadcasting when I was an old, critical adult whining about him on social media.
 
As I've said many times, McCarver was once one of the most enjoyable broadcasters this side of Garagiola. When he did Mets games on WWOR, I loved it. Lots of stories and joking around. Something definitely changed when CBS and Fox came around and McCarver went national. I also think we got a little too analytical about our baseball broadcasters.
 

DON DRYSDALE (90 cards -- probably more)

This is the first card I owned of Don Drysdale. I've done a lot better on obtaining his cards since. But I don't have them all tabulated on TCDB yet for a complete total.

Drysdale was a broadcaster for Monday Night Baseball in the late 1970s, so I first associated him with a bright yellow jacket and tolerating Cosell trampling all over what he was saying. In those days, Drysdale looked more like this:


And that's about it for former players who were broadcasting when I was a kid. There are a few others that I'm sure I saw, Bob Gibson, for example, who made brief appearances.

I discounted folks who were still playing when they broadcasted. Guys like Jim Palmer and Tom Seaver would work the postseason after their seasons were over.

When I was a kid, NBC was the king of baseball viewing with ABC doing what it could to keep up. CBS baseball didn't exist, but it had a long history with baseball back before my time when Dizzy Dean did the games.

Today, I don't think any of the national telecasts remind me of anything I watched then. The telecasts on Fox and especially ESPN are too pre-scripted, less conversational. And many of the team broadcasters are unbearable today as the many former players in the booth are too focused on what they were focused on as a ballplayer ("that's a good swing," "that's good pitch," stuff like that is almost all you get), rather than giving fans a real view of the experience of a major league game or being a pro ballplayer.

The best current TV team that resembles what I saw as a kid is the Mets team of Gary Cohen, Keith Hernandez and Ron Darling. I will watch them over virtually any other team's broadcast and I don't even like the Mets. It's too bad more of the teams, and whoever is broadcasting the World Series, can't be more down-to-earth like those three are.
 
Heck, I'd take Phil Rizzuto giving birthday greetings to Henrieta Lewandowski in Yonkers over what I hear now.

Comments

Old Cards said…
This brings back a lot of memories of watching games as a kid. I remember McCarver as a player and as an announcer.
sg488 said…
You must have just missed the Curt Gowdy/Tony Kubek team,they were always on the NBC game of the week when I was a kid ,Garagiola did the pre-game.
4 of the 9 were catchers. Hmm.

I think Fran Healy also hosted a syndicated baseball show called "Halls of Fame" (or something like that - sponsored by Halls cough drops).
Angus said…
Love the Mets broadcast team!

The commentator I miss the most is Duke Snider on Expos broadcasts. Loved his stories and learned a lot from him.
Nick Vossbrink said…
As a kid. Ron Fairly and Ray Fosse in the Bay Area. Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan nationally. McCarver was still good when I was a kid. I think he must've either run out of material or changed to be more "professional" once he started doing the Olympics. Also listened a bit to Tito Fuentes when I was learning Spanish.
Anonymous said…
Rizzuto & White is my all time favorite broadcasting team. A pox on whomever told Garagiola he was funny and put him behind a mic.
Mike Matson said…
Tony Kubek did Jays games in the 80s.
I like Dan Shulman and Buck Martinez as a team. Buck doing colour is much better than PBP Buck
Bo said…
I really enjoyed this post. So much that I might steal this concept and do a post like this myself. Growing up in the NY metro area about a decade after year, we listened to a lot of the same announcers.

I was nervous how you, the Yankee hater, would handle Rizzuto and White, but you did it perfectly. I loved the line about Rizzuto and your grandmother.

It's funny you write "Fran Healy is totally associated with the Yankees". When I was growing up he was a Mets announcer for many years. I was surprised to find out he was a former major leaguer of any kind, let alone a Yankee. He didn't look or sound like a former athlete.

Conversely, I associate Tom Seaver as a Yankee, which is pretty unusual. He, Rick Cerone and the Scooter were a really fun announcing team for the lousy Yankee teams of the late 80s and early 90s, made them fun for a young kid to watch. Of the numerous former players in the Yankee booth currently, the only ones I enjoy listening to are David Cone and Al Leiter.

I don't understand why people like Darling and Hernandez, but maybe that's just my anti-Mets bias. I hate when Darling does Yankee playoff games, it feels to me like he's anti-Yankee though it's probably just my imagination. I liked Kiner and McCarver just fine in the 80's though. It took me a long time to get used to McCarver when he became a Yankee announcer in the 2000s, he was so established as a Mets guy to me.
defgav said…
Neither are really thought of as broadcasters, but I remember Joe Torre and Reggie Jackson calling Angels games in 1990 when I first fell in love with baseball. Caught several games on an LA station that sometimes also broadcast on San Diego basic cable (but didn't get Dodgers broadcasts). That familiarity probably helped Reggie become my favorite player to collect as a kid even though he had been retired for a couple years already.
bryan was here said…
I remember listening to Herb Score doing Indians games and Steve Blass and Jim Rooker doing the Pirates during my formative baseball years.

Bill White graduated from the same high school I did! Warren G Harding High in Warren, Ohio. The baseball field is actually named after him. In his book Uppity, he talks about his time growing up in Warren.
Harding is better known for the many NFL players that came from there, including Hall Of Famer Paul Warfield, longtime NFL assistant coach Bill Kollar, the late Korey Stringer (Vikings), Prescott Burgess (Ravens), Mario Manningham (Giants/49ers), Boom Herron (Bengals/Colts), Lynn Bowden (Dolphins) and James Daniels (Steelers).
I actually was a teammate of Stringer and James Daniels' father, LeShun Daniels, who also played with Stringer at Ohio State and had a brief NFL career as well.
Fuji said…
I enjoy watching and listening to clips of Ron Darling. I like his personality and he seems to know his stuff. As for my first baseball teachers, I'd have to say they were my LL coaches... and The Baseball Bunch. As for announcers... Hank Greenwald, Bill King, and Lon Simmons were three guys I remember from the 80's.
Don said…
The Tigers had George Kell and Al Kaline on their TV broadcast.
Kal said…
I am a Dodger guy and I loved Drysdale and Monday over the years. And I think Hershiser does a great job of talking baseball, taking you into the clubhouse & mindset of an MLB player, tells funny stories, and keeps it light.
Mollie Dalton said…
I only know Tim McCarver as the "guy who always called the World Series on FOX". Or at least that's what I titled him as!

Bob Uecker I only know from the Major League movies and the stuff he did in wrestling that my sister showed me. I always thought he was a comedian tbh until I learned more about him.
Jafronius said…
When I started paying attention to the Cubs, Harry Caray worked with Steve Stone. We learned a lot from Stone and it was too bad the Cubs dumped him.